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But once while Orienteering I found myself being chased by a bull. It was not fun. It was not thrilling. It was not adventurous. Anyone who intentionally puts themselves in that situation or encourages them to is quite simply an idiot.

If bulls weren't killed in the bullrings, they would be killed somewhere else probably to be part of our diet , they wouldn't be feed this good, wouldn't spent days in the countryside, running free, before the corridas In this case we are watching the cruelty of the mankind against animals, but we eat and wear tones of animals that have suffered probably a worst death Occassionally humans have to celebrate the amazing fact that our ancestors developed the balls and skills required to dominate even the most powerful of animals.

Cada vez somos mas y algun algun dia acabaremos con esta crueldad prehistorica,justificada solo por intereses economicos,pasadas generaciones y palurdos profundos.

I ran with the bulls twice in I love the celebration, the country around Pamplona, and the bull fights. Yes, running is scary and bull fighting is bloody, and the bulls do end up dying - but a number of people have already pointed out the double standards and irony of our meat eating culture objecting to this. These bulls are butchered and fed to the poor after the fights, so in 6 days a total of 36 bulls-worth of meat make it to the plates of people less fortunate than I.

In the annals of history, humans have done worse things to other humans: This is a Spanish tradition originally imported to Spain by the Moors in the 's. If you don't like it - don't look at it, but be culturally sensitive enough to recognize it as something they do that does not hurt you, that you may not fully understand.

Bullfighting is an art A lot of people are against bullfighting because they don't understand it. A good way to try an understand it is to stand close to one of these bulls. Please do it, and then yo can come back and write your comments. To all of my non-American friends: A good portion of us, are, unfortunately, but not all of us. La Corrida is a testament to culture and human history, and yes, bulls die, in a manner that seems cruel and uneccesary, but to say that you feel no sympathy for the dead means you really do not appreciate life in all its forms.

To me, this reeks of insensibility and ignorance, and that's a shame. This kind of thinking is disrespectful to the families of the dead. Let us not forget: Human animals have rights as well. Most people offer uneducated opinions on bull fighting. The breeding and killing of bulls in bull fighting is far more humane and honest then the breeding and killing of farm animals. Fighting bulls live in open fields freely - farmed animals live in cramped conditions some times in cages. Fighting bulls get killed honestly in front of you if you wish to look.

Farmed animals get killed by having their throats cut, electrocution, drowning etc behind closed doors. I don't understand how Bullfighting can be an art! How about trying to imagine how the poor bull feels for once. How can you consider torture as an art? I am sickened by what supposedly civilised people are doing here. More sickened in fact, because the pain inflicted on these animals is glorified as sport or art.

It's cruel and unnecessary and disgusting. Me uno a los comentarios en contra de la tortura como pretendida forma de arte o cultura. I think the running with the bulls bit is rather stupid, but I think bullfighting is a magnificent spectacle.

Picture 31 is what it's all about: No reality show nonsense: Prior to that, the skill also lies in how close you can make the bull pass without getting gored en passant.

Look up "veronica" for more information. That's fine, more power to you, I completely agree the beef industry is a nightmare, and for the most part, I eat a low meat diet.

Bullfighting predates the beef industry and factory farming, though, so please don't conflate the two. You have a social problem: Can view all human violence in tv I remember COPS and other supid and violent programs , you have no problems in executing thousands of prisoners, just as do Third World country, but you can see blood of an animal.

You have no problems with the deaths of children by firearms, with the suffering at the hands of Pinochet's Chile, Iraq, in Afghanistan, in supporting dictatorships that have destroyed millions of people Once heard a story about Antonio Banderas that it was very difficult to do Spanish food in Los Angeles because it was impossible to find shrimp with head in American supermarkets. He said that the American people prefer not to see the eyes of the animals they eat, and why does the chicken heart-shaped We must face the harshness of real life and not hide it.

Everything else is politically correct and makes me sick. What about the guns in the States? That is not an stupid, barbarian, tradition? It only exist "thanks" to festivals like these. There are many interpretations about the bullfighting in Spain.

If you could see the conditions and environment of these animals and then compare with other bulls-and-cows-destinated-to-supermarket conditions The bulls don't win enough. We want more dead matadors. And I am talking of human beings. It never will stop surprising me the iliteracy and lack of respect in the country of freedom?

Mind on your own business. You have a lot to be ashamed!! Cruelty to animals is not excusable in any case. And the argument that we eat meat so we do the same is sophistry. We don't chase our Thanksgiving turkey around the front yard torturing it before we kill it. You can tell they have no leg to stand on when they call people names who don't agree with them. They're wrong, they know it, and they simply refuse to accept that what they do is cruel and barbaric and a reflection of their insecurity that forces them to prove their manhood in such inexcusable ways.

But they won't listen anyway. Anyone who can be so cruel to animals don't have a shred of compassion in them. So you can't appeal to their better natures. It's an ultimate expression of narcissism.

After looking at 25, 29, 30, 31 if you think this is a Great Sport There is a very distinct line between slaughter and torture.. There is a very distinct line between eating meat and taunting these bovines to death. Coments 71 and , You equate mercilessly torturing bulls with picking flowers? You and the others who thinks it is fun to show your power over animals like this are really amazing. I guess in "your world" , we all would hate each other. After all who wants to live where everybody actually gets along.

And in your world, according to your logic, we would all be eating and breathing all the chemicals we can until we fall over dead from it at 45 years old. Grow up you morons. Animals are not equal to humans, and obviously neither are you two, but they don't deserve to be tortured for fun. You people are ignorant. Why don't you condemn the stupid rednecks that hunt "for sport"? Or do you think that dear you just put an arrow through is having a humane time bleeding to death in the woods?

At least the bulls fight back, none of this "let me shoot the animal with a gun" BS. If you guys want americans to agree with bulfighting you'd better start calling the bulls terrorists. But if you want americans to don a montera, enter the arena themselves and kill all the bulls and even the bystanders with gusto, just tell them the bulls don't like Israel.

It just shows and brings out our taste for blood as human beings. Nothing warm about it that for sure!! What does it do for me The bulls are at a clear disadvantage. Let me in the ring with a sword to fight those gay outfit wearing pussies!!

I'd shed there blood for crowd cheers!! Or better yet put sharp horns on the bullfighters heads and send them in against the bulls! How long would they last in a fair fight! It's some kind of bull SHIT if you get any honor out of that! In war people die, that's a fact. America is not the enemy! When there's a big disaster somewhere who comes and brings food, water and medical supplies. When people are oppressed, displaced, murdered who comes to help?

When America goes to war to protect its citizen, all of a sudden, America is evil!?? Having said that, It's time to stop bullfighting. This glorification of animal cruelty is appalling and disgusting. Its one thing to butcher an animal for food, its another to watch an animal slowly tortured and killed. Cruel and beautiful, as life is. I can only agree with the excelent exposition of Mario Do you ask the bull if it wants to be killed in this manner?

Whats the point of this "proud and great life" if they're going to be tortured to death? Yes, true people eat meat and for this, animals are killed. But to be killed for entertainment and sport like this? By torturing them till death? People who are for this kind of are barbarians. In Spain more people don't support bullfighting Is better to come here tu see this If you live in the rest of spain the people dont like this shit More turist want make a topic of Spain There's a popular legislative initiative for the abolition of bullfights in Catalonia, almost It's unbelievable to read how the people who like this torture mess up everything saying that we eat meat.

Laws say that animals can not be treated like this, but they all make an exception with bullfights. Para defender a los pobres cerdos y gallinas de los mataderos no se os ve tan indignados. While I don't like seeing animals hurt or people , it's a very old tradition and the photos were brilliant. Spain is a very very old country with a culture that has endured some of the most painful and triumphant ordeals occupation of the Moors, for instance All of you bleeding heart naysayers need to realize that the Spanish may just forget more about art and culture than some of you will ever know.

If you are a meat eater than you really should bite your tongue. Those beasts of burden are treated better, exponentially, than beef cows off to the slaughter. For those that have agreed with comment 71 - what was the actual substance of that comment?

That killing a flower is as brutal as killing an animal such as a bull or human? Strange thing to be agreeing with Personally, I think that if I was a bull I would kindly ask the humans to not do this to us. I would also ask them kindly to not eat us. It comes back to the Golden Rule, as always Also, if you're not vegetarian and are horrified by these pictures, maybe now is a good time to dig up some abattoir photos and have some introspection - to see whether or not you're equally horrified by the consequences of your own actions.

My Uncle went to a Bull Fight and got kicked out for cheering every time the bull got the matador. I understand that it is tradition, but do not think that killing animals for sport really has a place in todays society. We have evolved past that now haven't we? I am Spanish and for me this is a shame, an unnecessary cruelty and fills me with sadness. I sincerely hope that this ends soon and we need also that all the people who come to our country not to attend to this kind of "entertainment".

Thank you very much to show the net such a powerfull views of one of our strongest traditions. I know it's a very cruel cultural expresssion but any way I think that any discussion about it is stupid, meaningless and a loose of time. Great photos but this tradition is horrible.

Those animals suffer that much. I really hope many men are injured. Even though I live in Madrid km or miles away from Pamplona , I am ashamed of what my folks do, and I want to apologize to anyone reading this for not taking more effort to keep this barbaric event from going on year after year. OK I think I understand people who defend this tradition trying to compare this to other things that we do normally.

I don't like it, but it has been around us all throughout our history. But we have been fighting with each other, and this has decorated every chapter of our history. I'd consider what happens in Iraq and other countries is basically part of the war history.

Is it fair to invade other countries kill people? Is it fair to blow suicide bomb killing innocent people? How about slaughtering animals? We are omnivores, and are supposed to eat meats and vegetables. So we have to kill them to eat. I and probably most of us may enjoy eating some meat, I'd never enjoy watching to kill animals. Now go back to this bullfighting tradition. It sounded like those animals were raised under much better conditions than the "food animals".

But what's the point if they are going to be end up with long painful death after "three stages of torture". I don't see much honor in the animal, and I consider this worse than the food animals.

If YOU are brave, why don't you fight with the bull 1-to-1 and win? I will cheer for you. We human have the most powerful brain not the physical power , which allowed us to dominate this earth. We can use it for good. Not for this cruel and uncivilized game. Bulls are raised for that purpose only, that's their life If they weren't used for that, they wouldn't exist as it happened in the rest of Europe They aren't defenseless animals, they are kgs beasts that are able to kill easily a human as it's been proved this year Bullfighting is a one to one fighting where the bullfighter isn't always unhurt You should mind your own business In fact there are many spanish laws against animal abuse, but they don't apply here because theese law ends with the phrase "except bull-fighting".

Everybody who says that this is a "sport", or that picking up a flower is a brutality too. Look at the picture When could be torture of an animal a sport? What if that animal was your dog or your cat?

I am shocked with the lack of humanity of some people. And I am talking abnout what I lived, because I'm spanish. On a side note the standard or spelling on this comment thread is horrific.

Unless I'm missing some irony here Iraq is spelt with a Q, not a K. It's much more civilized invading countries for oil and abducting innocent people. I prefer the cultural heritage of Paris Hilton. Yes, it's true we do kill animals all the time, but we don't drown them in their own blood Frikin morrons, defending bullfight I am from Portugal, and i do know what i am talking about! Spain is the second country the first is France in number of tourists all over the world.

The tourist likes to go to this kind of typical traditions. Spain is not third world Is just that they like to keep their traditions, as other countries do Los Guiris ignorantes, que observen y callen.

Si no comprenden algo que no les concierne, que se queden en su granja de Ohio. Ellos si que tienen cosas por las que avergonzarse I guess that the US tradition of occupation of other countries does less harm to the world. Start doing something good for yourselves and for the world, and after that you might begging judging other cultures and traditions.

Para todos estos que ni han visto una corrida, ni un encierro ni un concurso de recortadores les voy a recordar una cosita. Cada vez que te comas un filetito piensa que esa carne sale de un animal: Good days, I imagine that it he,she seems to you to be much better to go of hunt fighter with a rifle in order that the animal could defend, at least the animal can defend not as like in the hunt or in a slaughter house or you believe that in a slaughter house the animals do not bleed, are all a few hypocrites.

Mas estupida y barbara me resulta la cultura en la que vivimos industrial-economica , la cual hace que millones de personas vivan miserables y desgraciadas. Ademas, como creeis que viven y mueren los animales que despues os comeis pollos, cerdos, vacas?? Hipocritas los que no ven la fiesta y la alegria y solo ven maltrato.

I like the San Fermin party, I like the runs with the bullsbut I'm not with the people who kills an animal that doesn't have any opportunity to survive. For me it's horible and I hate it. Today, Bulls are born in ranches as their natural environment hills does not exist anymore.

I t is as simple as that. A great part of spanish people are against bullfighting. I'm spanish and I don't understand traditions or culture with torture and violence. La pena de muerte, la guerra indiscriminada, la opresion encubierta, los Mc.

I just would like to point one thing, for those who think this is an inmoral and barbaric practice most of you US residents you should look how do you treat your own beefs and farm animals; you pile up them as trash, making them eat, putting eggs or giving milk untill they die cows and chickens use for these purposes usually die pretty soon.

Spanish bulls live his whole life in the country without contact with humans eating whatever they like and doing whatever they like; if I would be a bull I would prefer to live my life and die in a fight rather than life as a slave and then die or get killed to eat my meat.

Stop being hipocrits Bu. And that say it in a country that thousands of persons die for firearm. Ah then the bull eats up, as if in eeuu one was not eating meat and would be extinguished if he was not for this holiday. I'm totally sure that everybody that is posting on this forum comes from somewhere where there are traditions difficult to understand by people who doesn't belong to there, but the locals find them totally normal.

You can agree or disagree, but what you can't do is to insult the people who loves and respect this tradition, because that shows the cultural and educational level that you have for some people on this forum this level is close to none. I am totally sure that if you were there you would be amazed. Hi,im spanish and i want to start saying i dont like bullfighting.

Is an horror for bulls and must be forbidden. But one thing is that an other very different is to judge all spanish people as "not humans" and "barbarics". All spanish people kill bulls? So please, before write any comment think about it, your words could be wrong. Not all the people do the same Es una crueldad, pero esa gente que tachais de ignorante, seguramente tenga mucha mas cultura que el americano medio.

These people do this to animals should stay with problems throughout its life. It is a shame, is the dumbest tradition that the world can be. Not violence to animals. That face combined with that outfit is just surreal. Out of idle curiosity, do European taxpayers get to fund all those running heroes who get themselves trampled and gored? Brave advertising for socialized medicine, if so Para el Me hace gracia cada vez que veo un comentario de este tipo Despite of being spanish, I hate this "party" over anything else.

As many other people here in Spain, I'm doing everything on my hands to stop this murders. It may sound rude, but I really feel happy when I hear on the news that one of this "artists" has been threatened or killed by a bull. They have what they deserve. It's not necessary to make suffer the animal this way for eating it, so this is a complete nonsense. There isn't any reason for kiling an animal this way so, I completely diagree with comment 71 and who supports it. Sory dude, but it's not the same.

It's normal when yoy want people to argue put the most extreme photos etc.. I'm so impressed how you american people can be so hypocrite. Each thing you don't like at world you say it's horrible and pusnishable. Maybe you can invade our country, kill k of people and then save some animal which have been care better than you whith your trith world healthcare system to not be killed with honor and respect.

The spanish Government are wasting more money in supporting bullfights that the cost of the bulls themselves. Vive y deja vivir. En cuanto al tema yo no soy fan de las corridas de toro,pero sinceramente veo peor,mucho peor el trato que reciben las gallinas que viven y mueren en jaulas tan estrechas que no pueden darse la vuelta,y que las despiertan cada media hora para que pongan huevos hasta que mueren,los cerdos que viven encerrados,amontonados y aglutinados Al menos los toros bravos,aun teniendo una muerte horrible,son de los que tienen una mejor vida Lo de las corridas no tiene nombre, y es tortura, aqui y en la china popular.

Fortunately we have groups that want to prohibit this massacre, when we will do it? I don't know, we need your support. This is a LAME spectacle.!!! The american opinion about a country after watching 1 or 2 pictures, shows how much did they learn from S.

What kind of culture export America? Rodeo Horses have really fun there? Y luego dicen que el toro no sufre La verdad me da pena de la gente que sale por la tele defendiendo las corridas de toros, lo cerrada de mente que puede llegar a ser una persona As i am spanish, i think its a shame, its not tradicion or culture, its just money. But for my its just a person dress like a clown who torture and torment to the death and animal. With things like this, we are so sorry but we are the europian retards They eat the bulls afterwards.

Do you think bacon grows in the trees? They slaughter those poor pigs too, but you dont complain because you dont see it. Unless you are a vegan you are a hypocrite.

Oh, but then its not killing them its how you make them suffer. Your beloved bacon live all their lives in overpopulated farms with no freedom whatsoever. Those 4 year old bulls live in the countryside until they come to be killed. By the way, i dont like bullfighting.

American unconscious are always injured in Pamplona. I love this game! Many people in spain doesnt support this kind of murder.. Torture is not culture.

Im spanish by the way. Believe it or not, people from outside Spain: Here in Spain we are not all in favor of this absurd tradition, each day we are younger we believe that this should end now, but much of Spain closed magnates and absurd traditionalist who invest their money and move threads to the holidays will continue to enjoy, it's amazing how people with more buying power and with more devotion to religion is very much interested in these kinds of activities I hope the rest of the world does not think that in Spain everyone loves bullfighting and bullfighting.

Respect to american comment, we dont invader unilaterallly other countrys as tradition. For some reason we europeans see some of our traditions as barbaric but we praise similar things when seen in a tribal documentary of the BBC oh they are so connected with nature, oh, they go around covered with just a lieaf on their gennitals,oh, they sacrifice boars to their gods, they have such a powerfull culture thats cause we are a very racist sociaty after all, and we see them as litle more than speaking gorillas.

Our tree slaughtering and man slaughtering are far more sick. This is art and tradicion! Si esto es cultura If the bull fight are culture I'm a catalonian guy, Catalonia is a unrecognized country near Spain. Barcelona is our capital, and we are pacific and we don't like "toros", it's a barbaric tradition, and the're calling it art!!! Es la lucha del hombre contra el toro, contra el animal, de igual a igual y no siempre gana el torero. Quen pode considerar a tortura unha tradicion? Por cierto Pamplona esta llena de estadounidenses deseosos de tradiciones barbaras y alcohol vamos.

Wish I could have a reversal here where bulls are allowed to gore men and then make them pose like the guy in the last picture.. In fact, a lot of us are fighting to remove this "party".

I am terribly ashamed because of the image we give to the world. It is a barbaric tradition. The most of the Spanish are in opposition to the bullfights and sooner or later they will end up by disappearing.

The problem is that there are too much economic interests that sustain them. The bullrings every time are more empty. The torture is neither art nor culture. The race of fighting bulls survives and runs through the work of the farmers to survive the wild race.

It is a pity that a barbaric tradition is the only way to keep a race. A barbaric tradition that you would like to have the Americans and a barbaric tradition that we share with most of Europe as "the fox hunting in England" and you would like to take the barbarian inspiration to Spain, that is one who have survived so many years of history and maintain. I suppose that killing people, animals or plants is a tradition of commitment to the public.

But what better excuse for war with the comments of the nationalities of those who posted before me. And of course, the Spaniards who have commented are against this and are a part, like all others, forming a belief that there is, but it is a minority. Que si no lo necesitamos, que si es una lucha desigual, que si es una barbaridad Una especia menos, pero no los mateis!!! No soys masque invasores que sea en America, o en en Pais Vasco.

Por favor, mirad la viga que teneis en vuestro ojo, y dejadnos con nuestra paja. Every day in the world millions of animals died by human hand. What life 's better? That of the chickens, cows, rabbits etc.

Try to resolve this problem firt, and then we talk. What a stupid tradition??? Every year Pamplona is full of americans who enjoys for a week. Tell them not to come, please. They distort the real San Fermin and running drunk they make the "encierro" more dangerous.

It might be a stupid and barbaric tradition which i do not share but as you have said it is a tradition and traditions in some way should be kept.

I do not excuse this but what most people do not know is that thanks to this "stupid tradition" this type of bulls havent been wiped out and are raised in perfect conditions.

I would also like to say that instead of criticizing other countries traditions we should all be more tolerant and try to understand other peoples culture. I can understand than some people might find it barbaric but i also find barbaric in that some industrialize countries still sell gusn to anyone who wants one, that death penalties asre still carried out, etc En la foto 27 se aprecia perfectamente que esta gente son amantes del "arte y la cultura" retraso mental?

Honestly, the whole activity is for cowards. There are guys, who have no balls, poking and pushing the bull around. Reminds me of a kid playing the ants.

Goes to the same category as football hooligans, fox hunters and other cave age retarded activities. Dentro de los toros tenemos el encierro, el encierrillo, las corridas, los rejoneadores El que no haya visto una buena corrida de toros no puede opinar, porque no entiende la magia que existe. El toro de lidia el de las corridas ya nace para esto, sino posiblemente se hubiera extinguido tambien. Espero que tengais ocasion de probar una parte de la fiesta como hizo Ernest hemingway. Las fiestas y tradiciones son parte de la cultura de un pais.

The abundance of generalization and logical fallacies by the supporters amaze me. And what an irony, they think we are the ignorant ones. And yes, I do eat meat. I just don't like treating animals like dirt and I don't enjoy seeing suffering. Eating meat does not mean that I have to fail stabbing a wounded animal and see it bleed from its nose until his death.

Killing might be necessary, but it doesn't mean that it has to be painful and be called as "sports". I am a man, and I do know that our "superiority" depends on our history, our cumulative knowledge. I did not invent the gun, or the sword and sure as hell I don't feel that I have a right to kill anything for "sports" just because I can use a sharp or pointy metal. Seriously, stop making ridiculous arguments and keep your religious shit to yourselves.

Animals weren't "created" for humans, selfish prick. I'm Spanish and young like paumania and I have opposite feelings about bullfighting: No man should die in a show, and no animal should be hurt for our enjoyment. But it's not entertainment, it is more like a greek spectacle, it is cathartic and extremely respectful. By this, I mean that it can never be solved though a comment's debate I'm totally against people running in front of bulls though - that has no other point than adrenalyne.

Dios, como odio los putos toros! Pero por supuesto, los animales estan para divertirnos! Hay otras fiestas en el mundo las cuales son mas crueles. Los anti-taurinos se podrian dedicar a cosas mas provechosas que a este tema y dar auxilio a la gente que mendiga en la calle y no tiene para comer. Al que no le gusten los toros que le den por el culo. Many "runners" in this event are outsiders who don't know the security rules, and that makes it much more dangerous than it should be. Many of them Please, don't keep coming, or if you do, stay behind the barrier and let people from Pamplona run the bulls, cause they know how to do it, and they don't need to be in the front page of the newspapers with so sad incidents.

About bullfighting, I declare neutral. Don't like the vision of blood but know from some close people that it's necessary to aliviate the bull blood's preassure as stated by comment I don't like the end of the "corridas" with the bull's dead, but enjoy good bullfighters actuation in the middle stage.

And it's still true that the destiny of the spanish fighting bull is tied to that of bullfighting, because breeding them is much expensive. Happily for most of you, this tradition will eventually come to an end because spanish young people don't care much about it and don't understand the "whys". But, please, don't compare bullfighting with gladiators or kik boxing This is because you really don't know what you're talking about.

Como dice otro comentario: Most people here is against bull-fighting. As another coment said: I, however, must side with comments 69, 74, There are hundreds of practices that should be condemned before bullfighting, but using that truth to defend bullfighting is weak argument.

Just because the U. The fighting bulls are creatures very expensive to maintain, they live like no other till the moment to die. If this event disappear so will the animal.

We have to believe in the bull festival as the surviving of a specie. Disney is the guilty, this bunch of zoophiles believe that the bulls can speak and sing songs. Have you ever been in a bullring? Have you seen a bullfight? Are you more sensitive than Picasso, Hemingway, Goya,Lorca? Bulls are the most afortunated animals in the world, they have a chance to defence theirself and also if the bulls are brave in the fight, they will spend the life as a stud bulls.

Con respecto al debate, el toreo m parece un arte, y la gran mayoria q protestan contra el son una panda d hipocritas, xq para conseguir muchas d las comodidades q tienen a su alcance se llevan a cabo situaciones en las q el animal sufre mas q el toro pero claro como no lo ven!! There's a lot of spanish people like me that are against the bull fighting like this. I'm not proud of my country when I see images like these. And believei, there are a lot of spanish people who thinks like that, not all spanish people like this!

So horrible when a man kills a bull in a fight. So great when a man knocks out another man in a fight and causes him bad injuries or possibly death.

I'm Spanish and don't like the show of a bullfight. It's bloody, painfull and yes, innecessary. But it has a logic and is the only reason for the fighting bull to exist it's meat is not great -but it's eaten after the fight- and is a difficult breed to take care of. Deal with that, PETA.

Will Pamela adopt a kgs. And the respect for the death of this animals in Spain has increased a lot in the last years, believe me.

Las peleas de gallos,ha constituido un curioso espectaculo bastante cruel que ha tenido exito en paises que repudian a nuestra "fiesta brava" precisamente por sangrienta Muy bien, dejemos que desparezca tan precioso animal. Que gracia me hace Por favor no defendais lo indefendible. A los que criticais esto solo os quiero decir que, aunque os parezca brutal y sin sentido, estos toros son los que mejor vida tienen de todos. Viven al aire libre comiendo hierba fresca y corriendo por ella.

Al contrario que los demas, tambien tiene la posibilidad de salvarse si luchan como auntenticos titanes y convertirse en "sementales" para vivir el resto de su vida solo para procrear con vacas. No esta nada mal, eh? Yo no se que haran ustedes con sus "cowboys bulls" y como los trataran pero, aqui se trata de una tradicion vista como un arte en la que el hombre se enfrenta a la bestia en la que ambos luchan hasta la muerte.

The States are a very young country without enough history to understand traditions like bullfighting. I do not like bullfights but I do not see them cruel. They are animals, no humans, and I think it is a mistake to adapt the moral standards we have for human interactions to the field of interactions with animals.

This mistake is mainly due to the lack of contact we have with nature, and the unnatural relation that many people create with pets. We kill flies, because they bother us, we boil lobsters alive, because it is more tasty that way, we kill mice with poison or tramps because we don't want them at home. We are killing thousand of living creatures in each one of our movements It is the word "sport" what bothers?

Why do you assume that an animal suffers? Perfectly, suffer can be a concept only applicable to reason or that need consciousness to be applied. The mere existence of neuronal response to injure does not mean it can be called "pain", at least not like our "pain". Do not make free extrapolations, can lead you easily to anthropocentrism. We dont like your GUNS culture and your attitude towards the rest of the world. EEUU cant give any lesson of morality to any other country If you really care do something more than writing here.

It's funy how all this people criticize bullfighting and then they go to wal mart and buy 20 pounds of ribs without even thinking how that animal was killed Ya podrian aprender los guiris los primeros y los de la villa de madrid los siguientes.

Vosotros no sois festeros, sois hijos de puta. Y asco me da que EEUU se crean lso dioses de mundo y muchas otras cosas de otros paises, pero no por ello perdono a los que hacen a un toro vomitar sangre para divertirse cuatro despojos humanos.

Sois MUY jovenes y no teneis tradiciones ni historia, mas alla de todo lo relacionado con guerras y armas. Well, I'm spaniard and I never went to see a Bullfight. I don't like them, but i don't see as "barbaric" or "brutal", it is like hunting or fishing, that's that I think. Jordi, no seas embustero. Are you going to eat the dog afterwards? Are you risking you live in a combat where it has a real chance of succeed? Y, como bien se ha dicho en este foro El ser humano necesita dejar de ser hipocrita cuanto antes.

I hate bullfighting and bullfighters, it shames me like spanish. I celebrate when a guy dies by a bull. Lo triste no es que muera un animal, de hecho antes de comernoslos se matan como todo el mundo debe saber. No estoy en contra de los encierros, ni de los concursos de recortadores Y por no hblar de la post-corrida.

Al animal se le unta baselina en los ojos para dificultar su vision y facilitar la faena al asesino vestido de payaso, las agujas que se le clavan,los golpes que se le dan al morlaco para hacerle enfurecer. Si algun dia tengo la oportunidad tambien le clavare una espada a un torero y luego le arrancare los cojones para pasearlos por mi ciudad. A ver lo que tarda la policia en detenerme. A estas alturas no se como pueden llamar a esta barbarie tradcion, ni mucho menos cultura.

Hay cosas de cultura que tiene que cambiar No hay excusos numeros: La gente eligen que van y son heridos en St Fermin, los toros no!! Una "fiesta" donde los animales sufren de esta manera no se le puede llamar fiesta.

Es una masacre y una tortura. Toreros asesinos, despojados de honor, faltos de cordura, criminales impunes, cobardes vitoreados por ignorantes sedientos de sangre. Every evening during San Fermin 6 bulls are killed in a way like the one in the photos. Here in Spain we have to see live coverage from TV of all this shit. But the worst part are the people from other parts of Spain that are against animal cruelty but goes to San Fermin only for the party. This is disgusting and a real shame for a modern nation like spain.

I wish more people would be killed, may be this "tradition" would come to an end. I am Spanish and I do not like the bulls. The majority of the Spanish does not like the torture of the animal. Por eso pones el comentario en ingles Tanto comentario por unos toros con la cantidad de gente que muere todos los dias Part of the human condition: This is what we are, amongst many other things, obviously, and bullfighting is but a result of it, not a strange tradition or culture alien to our way of being.

Totally agree with ryuuk It's totally unnecessary and unnecessary suffering should be avoided at all time, let alone making animals suffer on purpose! And on , Iraq is spelt with a Q in English, not in all languages. There are many languages that have opted for a K in the end.

The specific spelling of countries in english if you're not a native english speaker is not common knowledge. El avispado que dice que los comentarios antitaurinos son de catalanistas y bla bla bla Tan inseguro te sientes de que te arrebatamos dos partes de tu querida patria?

When I see this images I feel embarrased of being Spanish. It's not culture, it's a sucking tradition supported by a minor of spanish, but nowadays with a lot of money involved.

Toreros hijos de puta, torero bueno torero muerto. No me parece normal, clavarle pinxos a un animal hasta que casi se desangre, para luego atravesarlo con una espada, es una verguenza que en los tiempos que estamos se siga torturando a animales de esta manera. Y algunos dira, es cultura, se lleva haciendo desde hace muchisimo tiempo Me alegro de ser canario donde las plazas de toros no son salas de torura, donde se mata a un animal para la alegria y beneplacito de cientos de mirones.

I am from Barcelona and member from a society against bullfighting. Todos sabemos que el animal sufre, si eso gusta a la gente, el hecho de hacer sufrir, ya me dicen todo de esas personas I'm Spanish and Bullfights is something traditional, there are people who like it and other people are against it. I think we have to respect. Referent some comentary of Catalonian people, say really Spain have many regions and Catalonia was one, and in Catalonia have few people minori who wants to be independent from spain, it's like Texans say they will be independent from the USA.

I think in many countries there are traditions like bullfighting and we have to respect it. Me hace gracia el puto catalan nacionalista que ha puesto este post: There are people that try to take care for life, harming only to protect, try to minimize their damage to the environment. It is not a fairy tale, in fact it is possible, if you can break away from ignorance.

This is so-called sport is the epitome of cruelty on animals, and rationalisation of bastardy in the form entertainment. A mi no me gustan mucho las corridas de toros, pero me encanta este animal. Es de casta pura, nobleza infinita y lucha hasta el final. Eso son las corridas, la lucha de un hombre contra un animal que nunca deja de pelear. Esta claro que influyen mucho las lanzas y banderillas que colocan, pero no deja de ser esto. Si por la muerte de una animal no podemos hacerlo, tampoco cazemos ni pesquemos.

Pero haber quien es el listo que se come un filete dandole un susto a la vaca Y a este tal jordi, solo decirle que sois la verguenza de este pais. El resto estamos orgullosos de la riqueza cultural que guardamos en tan poco espacio, pero nunca conseguireis arrebatarnos lo que es de todos. Criticar de cierta manera tradiciones de otras culturas diferentes a la nuestra, es caer en un peligroso etnocentrismo no hay mucha distancia a la xenofobia.

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I am not in favor of killing animals well, I do not think that an American who has exterminated races, tribes, bison using force is the opinion of this practice. Me encanta cuando gana el toro, el ser humano es algo estupido, cuando muerre alguien no se porque tanta tristeza, que tonteria, pues no era lo que buscaban?????

Pena que muere poca gente y toreros, habia que empezar a matar mas los toros, son los unicos racionales de la "fiesta"!! La imagen que damos nos la tenemos bien merecida. World's Third in the eyes of others. A estos gallegos le falla la cabeza, realmente una locura sin sentido lo que hacen, y encima dicen que es arte? No les da verguenza!!! A los Catalanes, no os gustaran los toros, pero cuando hay toros en la monumental, esta se llena. Jordi, the second Bullfight important place is in Spain, in Barcelona.

Maybe for a while in spanish second republic. I am from seville a I do not like it, but we like it. You can fight, but in general, it a common sense here in Spain. Do you think this is cool to play with the bull which cannot express its pain by words?

Its as good as torturing a human. Now i am ashamed to be a human being and ours is the only species which kills others for fun. Amazing photographs of modern barbarism. The human animal captured in all it's shameless stupidity. The guy with the horn to the throat got precisely what he deserved. Leave him on the street. Es una tradicion claro que si, antes tambien pensaba la gente que la tierra era plana no te jode que se supone que hemos evolucionado, con ese tipo de pensamientos retrogadas vamos mal e que estamos en el macho.

Yo disfruto cuando mueren toreros o pallasos que hacen el tonto delante del toro. No os metais con las tradiciones, solo son eso, tradiciones, y al serlo siempre son buenas Yeah for sure the guy from Catalonia is to talk when they think they don't form part of Spain.

Off course your against bullfighting, the only thing they teach you is to be against everything that Spain does.. Las tradiciones barbaras hay que conservarlas, pero en un museo. I am Spanish and I am ashamed of torture that is inflicted on the bulls in bullfights. Barbaric traditions must be preserved, but in a museum.

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Yes, true people eat meat and for this, animals are killed. But to be killed for entertainment and sport like this? By torturing them till death? People who are for this kind of are barbarians. In Spain more people don't support bullfighting Is better to come here tu see this If you live in the rest of spain the people dont like this shit More turist want make a topic of Spain There's a popular legislative initiative for the abolition of bullfights in Catalonia, almost It's unbelievable to read how the people who like this torture mess up everything saying that we eat meat.

Laws say that animals can not be treated like this, but they all make an exception with bullfights. Para defender a los pobres cerdos y gallinas de los mataderos no se os ve tan indignados. While I don't like seeing animals hurt or people , it's a very old tradition and the photos were brilliant. Spain is a very very old country with a culture that has endured some of the most painful and triumphant ordeals occupation of the Moors, for instance All of you bleeding heart naysayers need to realize that the Spanish may just forget more about art and culture than some of you will ever know.

If you are a meat eater than you really should bite your tongue. Those beasts of burden are treated better, exponentially, than beef cows off to the slaughter. For those that have agreed with comment 71 - what was the actual substance of that comment? That killing a flower is as brutal as killing an animal such as a bull or human?

Strange thing to be agreeing with Personally, I think that if I was a bull I would kindly ask the humans to not do this to us. I would also ask them kindly to not eat us. It comes back to the Golden Rule, as always Also, if you're not vegetarian and are horrified by these pictures, maybe now is a good time to dig up some abattoir photos and have some introspection - to see whether or not you're equally horrified by the consequences of your own actions. My Uncle went to a Bull Fight and got kicked out for cheering every time the bull got the matador.

I understand that it is tradition, but do not think that killing animals for sport really has a place in todays society. We have evolved past that now haven't we? I am Spanish and for me this is a shame, an unnecessary cruelty and fills me with sadness.

I sincerely hope that this ends soon and we need also that all the people who come to our country not to attend to this kind of "entertainment".

Thank you very much to show the net such a powerfull views of one of our strongest traditions. I know it's a very cruel cultural expresssion but any way I think that any discussion about it is stupid, meaningless and a loose of time.

Great photos but this tradition is horrible. Those animals suffer that much. I really hope many men are injured. Even though I live in Madrid km or miles away from Pamplona , I am ashamed of what my folks do, and I want to apologize to anyone reading this for not taking more effort to keep this barbaric event from going on year after year. OK I think I understand people who defend this tradition trying to compare this to other things that we do normally.

I don't like it, but it has been around us all throughout our history. But we have been fighting with each other, and this has decorated every chapter of our history.

I'd consider what happens in Iraq and other countries is basically part of the war history. Is it fair to invade other countries kill people? Is it fair to blow suicide bomb killing innocent people? How about slaughtering animals? We are omnivores, and are supposed to eat meats and vegetables. So we have to kill them to eat. I and probably most of us may enjoy eating some meat, I'd never enjoy watching to kill animals. Now go back to this bullfighting tradition.

It sounded like those animals were raised under much better conditions than the "food animals". But what's the point if they are going to be end up with long painful death after "three stages of torture". I don't see much honor in the animal, and I consider this worse than the food animals. If YOU are brave, why don't you fight with the bull 1-to-1 and win? I will cheer for you. We human have the most powerful brain not the physical power , which allowed us to dominate this earth.

We can use it for good. Not for this cruel and uncivilized game. Bulls are raised for that purpose only, that's their life If they weren't used for that, they wouldn't exist as it happened in the rest of Europe They aren't defenseless animals, they are kgs beasts that are able to kill easily a human as it's been proved this year Bullfighting is a one to one fighting where the bullfighter isn't always unhurt You should mind your own business In fact there are many spanish laws against animal abuse, but they don't apply here because theese law ends with the phrase "except bull-fighting".

Everybody who says that this is a "sport", or that picking up a flower is a brutality too. Look at the picture When could be torture of an animal a sport? What if that animal was your dog or your cat? I am shocked with the lack of humanity of some people. And I am talking abnout what I lived, because I'm spanish. On a side note the standard or spelling on this comment thread is horrific. Unless I'm missing some irony here Iraq is spelt with a Q, not a K. It's much more civilized invading countries for oil and abducting innocent people.

I prefer the cultural heritage of Paris Hilton. Yes, it's true we do kill animals all the time, but we don't drown them in their own blood Frikin morrons, defending bullfight I am from Portugal, and i do know what i am talking about!

Spain is the second country the first is France in number of tourists all over the world. The tourist likes to go to this kind of typical traditions. Spain is not third world Is just that they like to keep their traditions, as other countries do Los Guiris ignorantes, que observen y callen.

Si no comprenden algo que no les concierne, que se queden en su granja de Ohio. Ellos si que tienen cosas por las que avergonzarse I guess that the US tradition of occupation of other countries does less harm to the world. Start doing something good for yourselves and for the world, and after that you might begging judging other cultures and traditions. Para todos estos que ni han visto una corrida, ni un encierro ni un concurso de recortadores les voy a recordar una cosita.

Cada vez que te comas un filetito piensa que esa carne sale de un animal: Good days, I imagine that it he,she seems to you to be much better to go of hunt fighter with a rifle in order that the animal could defend, at least the animal can defend not as like in the hunt or in a slaughter house or you believe that in a slaughter house the animals do not bleed, are all a few hypocrites. Mas estupida y barbara me resulta la cultura en la que vivimos industrial-economica , la cual hace que millones de personas vivan miserables y desgraciadas.

Ademas, como creeis que viven y mueren los animales que despues os comeis pollos, cerdos, vacas?? Hipocritas los que no ven la fiesta y la alegria y solo ven maltrato. I like the San Fermin party, I like the runs with the bullsbut I'm not with the people who kills an animal that doesn't have any opportunity to survive. For me it's horible and I hate it. Today, Bulls are born in ranches as their natural environment hills does not exist anymore. I t is as simple as that.

A great part of spanish people are against bullfighting. I'm spanish and I don't understand traditions or culture with torture and violence. La pena de muerte, la guerra indiscriminada, la opresion encubierta, los Mc.

I just would like to point one thing, for those who think this is an inmoral and barbaric practice most of you US residents you should look how do you treat your own beefs and farm animals; you pile up them as trash, making them eat, putting eggs or giving milk untill they die cows and chickens use for these purposes usually die pretty soon.

Spanish bulls live his whole life in the country without contact with humans eating whatever they like and doing whatever they like; if I would be a bull I would prefer to live my life and die in a fight rather than life as a slave and then die or get killed to eat my meat. Stop being hipocrits Bu. And that say it in a country that thousands of persons die for firearm.

Ah then the bull eats up, as if in eeuu one was not eating meat and would be extinguished if he was not for this holiday. I'm totally sure that everybody that is posting on this forum comes from somewhere where there are traditions difficult to understand by people who doesn't belong to there, but the locals find them totally normal.

You can agree or disagree, but what you can't do is to insult the people who loves and respect this tradition, because that shows the cultural and educational level that you have for some people on this forum this level is close to none. I am totally sure that if you were there you would be amazed. Hi,im spanish and i want to start saying i dont like bullfighting. Is an horror for bulls and must be forbidden. But one thing is that an other very different is to judge all spanish people as "not humans" and "barbarics".

All spanish people kill bulls? So please, before write any comment think about it, your words could be wrong. Not all the people do the same Es una crueldad, pero esa gente que tachais de ignorante, seguramente tenga mucha mas cultura que el americano medio.

These people do this to animals should stay with problems throughout its life. It is a shame, is the dumbest tradition that the world can be. Not violence to animals. That face combined with that outfit is just surreal. Out of idle curiosity, do European taxpayers get to fund all those running heroes who get themselves trampled and gored?

Brave advertising for socialized medicine, if so Para el Me hace gracia cada vez que veo un comentario de este tipo Despite of being spanish, I hate this "party" over anything else. As many other people here in Spain, I'm doing everything on my hands to stop this murders. It may sound rude, but I really feel happy when I hear on the news that one of this "artists" has been threatened or killed by a bull.

They have what they deserve. It's not necessary to make suffer the animal this way for eating it, so this is a complete nonsense.

There isn't any reason for kiling an animal this way so, I completely diagree with comment 71 and who supports it. Sory dude, but it's not the same. It's normal when yoy want people to argue put the most extreme photos etc.. I'm so impressed how you american people can be so hypocrite. Each thing you don't like at world you say it's horrible and pusnishable. Maybe you can invade our country, kill k of people and then save some animal which have been care better than you whith your trith world healthcare system to not be killed with honor and respect.

The spanish Government are wasting more money in supporting bullfights that the cost of the bulls themselves. Vive y deja vivir. En cuanto al tema yo no soy fan de las corridas de toro,pero sinceramente veo peor,mucho peor el trato que reciben las gallinas que viven y mueren en jaulas tan estrechas que no pueden darse la vuelta,y que las despiertan cada media hora para que pongan huevos hasta que mueren,los cerdos que viven encerrados,amontonados y aglutinados Al menos los toros bravos,aun teniendo una muerte horrible,son de los que tienen una mejor vida Lo de las corridas no tiene nombre, y es tortura, aqui y en la china popular.

Fortunately we have groups that want to prohibit this massacre, when we will do it? I don't know, we need your support. This is a LAME spectacle.!!! The american opinion about a country after watching 1 or 2 pictures, shows how much did they learn from S. What kind of culture export America? Rodeo Horses have really fun there? Y luego dicen que el toro no sufre La verdad me da pena de la gente que sale por la tele defendiendo las corridas de toros, lo cerrada de mente que puede llegar a ser una persona As i am spanish, i think its a shame, its not tradicion or culture, its just money.

But for my its just a person dress like a clown who torture and torment to the death and animal. With things like this, we are so sorry but we are the europian retards They eat the bulls afterwards.

Do you think bacon grows in the trees? They slaughter those poor pigs too, but you dont complain because you dont see it. Unless you are a vegan you are a hypocrite. Oh, but then its not killing them its how you make them suffer. Your beloved bacon live all their lives in overpopulated farms with no freedom whatsoever.

Those 4 year old bulls live in the countryside until they come to be killed. By the way, i dont like bullfighting. American unconscious are always injured in Pamplona. I love this game!

Many people in spain doesnt support this kind of murder.. Torture is not culture. Im spanish by the way. Believe it or not, people from outside Spain: Here in Spain we are not all in favor of this absurd tradition, each day we are younger we believe that this should end now, but much of Spain closed magnates and absurd traditionalist who invest their money and move threads to the holidays will continue to enjoy, it's amazing how people with more buying power and with more devotion to religion is very much interested in these kinds of activities I hope the rest of the world does not think that in Spain everyone loves bullfighting and bullfighting.

Respect to american comment, we dont invader unilaterallly other countrys as tradition. For some reason we europeans see some of our traditions as barbaric but we praise similar things when seen in a tribal documentary of the BBC oh they are so connected with nature, oh, they go around covered with just a lieaf on their gennitals,oh, they sacrifice boars to their gods, they have such a powerfull culture thats cause we are a very racist sociaty after all, and we see them as litle more than speaking gorillas.

Our tree slaughtering and man slaughtering are far more sick. This is art and tradicion! Si esto es cultura If the bull fight are culture I'm a catalonian guy, Catalonia is a unrecognized country near Spain. Barcelona is our capital, and we are pacific and we don't like "toros", it's a barbaric tradition, and the're calling it art!!!

Es la lucha del hombre contra el toro, contra el animal, de igual a igual y no siempre gana el torero. Quen pode considerar a tortura unha tradicion? Por cierto Pamplona esta llena de estadounidenses deseosos de tradiciones barbaras y alcohol vamos. Wish I could have a reversal here where bulls are allowed to gore men and then make them pose like the guy in the last picture.. In fact, a lot of us are fighting to remove this "party".

I am terribly ashamed because of the image we give to the world. It is a barbaric tradition. The most of the Spanish are in opposition to the bullfights and sooner or later they will end up by disappearing.

The problem is that there are too much economic interests that sustain them. The bullrings every time are more empty. The torture is neither art nor culture. The race of fighting bulls survives and runs through the work of the farmers to survive the wild race.

It is a pity that a barbaric tradition is the only way to keep a race. A barbaric tradition that you would like to have the Americans and a barbaric tradition that we share with most of Europe as "the fox hunting in England" and you would like to take the barbarian inspiration to Spain, that is one who have survived so many years of history and maintain.

I suppose that killing people, animals or plants is a tradition of commitment to the public. But what better excuse for war with the comments of the nationalities of those who posted before me. And of course, the Spaniards who have commented are against this and are a part, like all others, forming a belief that there is, but it is a minority.

Que si no lo necesitamos, que si es una lucha desigual, que si es una barbaridad Una especia menos, pero no los mateis!!! No soys masque invasores que sea en America, o en en Pais Vasco.

Por favor, mirad la viga que teneis en vuestro ojo, y dejadnos con nuestra paja. Every day in the world millions of animals died by human hand. What life 's better? That of the chickens, cows, rabbits etc. Try to resolve this problem firt, and then we talk. What a stupid tradition???

Every year Pamplona is full of americans who enjoys for a week. Tell them not to come, please. They distort the real San Fermin and running drunk they make the "encierro" more dangerous.

It might be a stupid and barbaric tradition which i do not share but as you have said it is a tradition and traditions in some way should be kept. I do not excuse this but what most people do not know is that thanks to this "stupid tradition" this type of bulls havent been wiped out and are raised in perfect conditions. I would also like to say that instead of criticizing other countries traditions we should all be more tolerant and try to understand other peoples culture.

I can understand than some people might find it barbaric but i also find barbaric in that some industrialize countries still sell gusn to anyone who wants one, that death penalties asre still carried out, etc En la foto 27 se aprecia perfectamente que esta gente son amantes del "arte y la cultura" retraso mental?

Honestly, the whole activity is for cowards. There are guys, who have no balls, poking and pushing the bull around. Reminds me of a kid playing the ants. Goes to the same category as football hooligans, fox hunters and other cave age retarded activities.

Dentro de los toros tenemos el encierro, el encierrillo, las corridas, los rejoneadores El que no haya visto una buena corrida de toros no puede opinar, porque no entiende la magia que existe. El toro de lidia el de las corridas ya nace para esto, sino posiblemente se hubiera extinguido tambien. Espero que tengais ocasion de probar una parte de la fiesta como hizo Ernest hemingway. Las fiestas y tradiciones son parte de la cultura de un pais.

The abundance of generalization and logical fallacies by the supporters amaze me. And what an irony, they think we are the ignorant ones. And yes, I do eat meat. I just don't like treating animals like dirt and I don't enjoy seeing suffering. Eating meat does not mean that I have to fail stabbing a wounded animal and see it bleed from its nose until his death. Killing might be necessary, but it doesn't mean that it has to be painful and be called as "sports".

I am a man, and I do know that our "superiority" depends on our history, our cumulative knowledge. I did not invent the gun, or the sword and sure as hell I don't feel that I have a right to kill anything for "sports" just because I can use a sharp or pointy metal. Seriously, stop making ridiculous arguments and keep your religious shit to yourselves.

Animals weren't "created" for humans, selfish prick. I'm Spanish and young like paumania and I have opposite feelings about bullfighting: No man should die in a show, and no animal should be hurt for our enjoyment.

But it's not entertainment, it is more like a greek spectacle, it is cathartic and extremely respectful. By this, I mean that it can never be solved though a comment's debate I'm totally against people running in front of bulls though - that has no other point than adrenalyne. Dios, como odio los putos toros!

Pero por supuesto, los animales estan para divertirnos! Hay otras fiestas en el mundo las cuales son mas crueles. Los anti-taurinos se podrian dedicar a cosas mas provechosas que a este tema y dar auxilio a la gente que mendiga en la calle y no tiene para comer.

Al que no le gusten los toros que le den por el culo. Many "runners" in this event are outsiders who don't know the security rules, and that makes it much more dangerous than it should be. Many of them Please, don't keep coming, or if you do, stay behind the barrier and let people from Pamplona run the bulls, cause they know how to do it, and they don't need to be in the front page of the newspapers with so sad incidents.

About bullfighting, I declare neutral. Don't like the vision of blood but know from some close people that it's necessary to aliviate the bull blood's preassure as stated by comment I don't like the end of the "corridas" with the bull's dead, but enjoy good bullfighters actuation in the middle stage.

And it's still true that the destiny of the spanish fighting bull is tied to that of bullfighting, because breeding them is much expensive. Happily for most of you, this tradition will eventually come to an end because spanish young people don't care much about it and don't understand the "whys".

But, please, don't compare bullfighting with gladiators or kik boxing This is because you really don't know what you're talking about. Como dice otro comentario: Most people here is against bull-fighting.

As another coment said: I, however, must side with comments 69, 74, There are hundreds of practices that should be condemned before bullfighting, but using that truth to defend bullfighting is weak argument.

Just because the U. The fighting bulls are creatures very expensive to maintain, they live like no other till the moment to die. If this event disappear so will the animal. We have to believe in the bull festival as the surviving of a specie. Disney is the guilty, this bunch of zoophiles believe that the bulls can speak and sing songs. Have you ever been in a bullring?

Have you seen a bullfight? Are you more sensitive than Picasso, Hemingway, Goya,Lorca? Bulls are the most afortunated animals in the world, they have a chance to defence theirself and also if the bulls are brave in the fight, they will spend the life as a stud bulls. Con respecto al debate, el toreo m parece un arte, y la gran mayoria q protestan contra el son una panda d hipocritas, xq para conseguir muchas d las comodidades q tienen a su alcance se llevan a cabo situaciones en las q el animal sufre mas q el toro pero claro como no lo ven!!

There's a lot of spanish people like me that are against the bull fighting like this. I'm not proud of my country when I see images like these.

And believei, there are a lot of spanish people who thinks like that, not all spanish people like this! So horrible when a man kills a bull in a fight. So great when a man knocks out another man in a fight and causes him bad injuries or possibly death. I'm Spanish and don't like the show of a bullfight. It's bloody, painfull and yes, innecessary.

But it has a logic and is the only reason for the fighting bull to exist it's meat is not great -but it's eaten after the fight- and is a difficult breed to take care of. Deal with that, PETA. Will Pamela adopt a kgs. And the respect for the death of this animals in Spain has increased a lot in the last years, believe me. Las peleas de gallos,ha constituido un curioso espectaculo bastante cruel que ha tenido exito en paises que repudian a nuestra "fiesta brava" precisamente por sangrienta Muy bien, dejemos que desparezca tan precioso animal.

Que gracia me hace Por favor no defendais lo indefendible. A los que criticais esto solo os quiero decir que, aunque os parezca brutal y sin sentido, estos toros son los que mejor vida tienen de todos. Viven al aire libre comiendo hierba fresca y corriendo por ella.

Al contrario que los demas, tambien tiene la posibilidad de salvarse si luchan como auntenticos titanes y convertirse en "sementales" para vivir el resto de su vida solo para procrear con vacas. No esta nada mal, eh? Yo no se que haran ustedes con sus "cowboys bulls" y como los trataran pero, aqui se trata de una tradicion vista como un arte en la que el hombre se enfrenta a la bestia en la que ambos luchan hasta la muerte.

The States are a very young country without enough history to understand traditions like bullfighting. I do not like bullfights but I do not see them cruel. They are animals, no humans, and I think it is a mistake to adapt the moral standards we have for human interactions to the field of interactions with animals.

This mistake is mainly due to the lack of contact we have with nature, and the unnatural relation that many people create with pets. We kill flies, because they bother us, we boil lobsters alive, because it is more tasty that way, we kill mice with poison or tramps because we don't want them at home.

We are killing thousand of living creatures in each one of our movements It is the word "sport" what bothers? Why do you assume that an animal suffers? Perfectly, suffer can be a concept only applicable to reason or that need consciousness to be applied. The mere existence of neuronal response to injure does not mean it can be called "pain", at least not like our "pain". Do not make free extrapolations, can lead you easily to anthropocentrism.

We dont like your GUNS culture and your attitude towards the rest of the world. EEUU cant give any lesson of morality to any other country If you really care do something more than writing here. It's funy how all this people criticize bullfighting and then they go to wal mart and buy 20 pounds of ribs without even thinking how that animal was killed Ya podrian aprender los guiris los primeros y los de la villa de madrid los siguientes.

Vosotros no sois festeros, sois hijos de puta. Y asco me da que EEUU se crean lso dioses de mundo y muchas otras cosas de otros paises, pero no por ello perdono a los que hacen a un toro vomitar sangre para divertirse cuatro despojos humanos. Sois MUY jovenes y no teneis tradiciones ni historia, mas alla de todo lo relacionado con guerras y armas. Well, I'm spaniard and I never went to see a Bullfight. I don't like them, but i don't see as "barbaric" or "brutal", it is like hunting or fishing, that's that I think.

Jordi, no seas embustero. Are you going to eat the dog afterwards? Are you risking you live in a combat where it has a real chance of succeed? Y, como bien se ha dicho en este foro El ser humano necesita dejar de ser hipocrita cuanto antes.

I hate bullfighting and bullfighters, it shames me like spanish. I celebrate when a guy dies by a bull. Lo triste no es que muera un animal, de hecho antes de comernoslos se matan como todo el mundo debe saber. No estoy en contra de los encierros, ni de los concursos de recortadores Y por no hblar de la post-corrida. Al animal se le unta baselina en los ojos para dificultar su vision y facilitar la faena al asesino vestido de payaso, las agujas que se le clavan,los golpes que se le dan al morlaco para hacerle enfurecer.

Si algun dia tengo la oportunidad tambien le clavare una espada a un torero y luego le arrancare los cojones para pasearlos por mi ciudad. A ver lo que tarda la policia en detenerme. A estas alturas no se como pueden llamar a esta barbarie tradcion, ni mucho menos cultura. Hay cosas de cultura que tiene que cambiar No hay excusos numeros: La gente eligen que van y son heridos en St Fermin, los toros no!!

Una "fiesta" donde los animales sufren de esta manera no se le puede llamar fiesta. Es una masacre y una tortura. Toreros asesinos, despojados de honor, faltos de cordura, criminales impunes, cobardes vitoreados por ignorantes sedientos de sangre. Every evening during San Fermin 6 bulls are killed in a way like the one in the photos. Here in Spain we have to see live coverage from TV of all this shit.

But the worst part are the people from other parts of Spain that are against animal cruelty but goes to San Fermin only for the party. This is disgusting and a real shame for a modern nation like spain.

I wish more people would be killed, may be this "tradition" would come to an end. I am Spanish and I do not like the bulls. The majority of the Spanish does not like the torture of the animal. Por eso pones el comentario en ingles Tanto comentario por unos toros con la cantidad de gente que muere todos los dias Part of the human condition: This is what we are, amongst many other things, obviously, and bullfighting is but a result of it, not a strange tradition or culture alien to our way of being.

Totally agree with ryuuk It's totally unnecessary and unnecessary suffering should be avoided at all time, let alone making animals suffer on purpose!

And on , Iraq is spelt with a Q in English, not in all languages. There are many languages that have opted for a K in the end. The specific spelling of countries in english if you're not a native english speaker is not common knowledge. El avispado que dice que los comentarios antitaurinos son de catalanistas y bla bla bla Tan inseguro te sientes de que te arrebatamos dos partes de tu querida patria?

When I see this images I feel embarrased of being Spanish. It's not culture, it's a sucking tradition supported by a minor of spanish, but nowadays with a lot of money involved. Toreros hijos de puta, torero bueno torero muerto. No me parece normal, clavarle pinxos a un animal hasta que casi se desangre, para luego atravesarlo con una espada, es una verguenza que en los tiempos que estamos se siga torturando a animales de esta manera.

Y algunos dira, es cultura, se lleva haciendo desde hace muchisimo tiempo Me alegro de ser canario donde las plazas de toros no son salas de torura, donde se mata a un animal para la alegria y beneplacito de cientos de mirones.

I am from Barcelona and member from a society against bullfighting. Todos sabemos que el animal sufre, si eso gusta a la gente, el hecho de hacer sufrir, ya me dicen todo de esas personas I'm Spanish and Bullfights is something traditional, there are people who like it and other people are against it.

I think we have to respect. Referent some comentary of Catalonian people, say really Spain have many regions and Catalonia was one, and in Catalonia have few people minori who wants to be independent from spain, it's like Texans say they will be independent from the USA.

I think in many countries there are traditions like bullfighting and we have to respect it. Me hace gracia el puto catalan nacionalista que ha puesto este post: There are people that try to take care for life, harming only to protect, try to minimize their damage to the environment. It is not a fairy tale, in fact it is possible, if you can break away from ignorance. This is so-called sport is the epitome of cruelty on animals, and rationalisation of bastardy in the form entertainment.

A mi no me gustan mucho las corridas de toros, pero me encanta este animal. Es de casta pura, nobleza infinita y lucha hasta el final. Eso son las corridas, la lucha de un hombre contra un animal que nunca deja de pelear. Esta claro que influyen mucho las lanzas y banderillas que colocan, pero no deja de ser esto.

Si por la muerte de una animal no podemos hacerlo, tampoco cazemos ni pesquemos. Pero haber quien es el listo que se come un filete dandole un susto a la vaca Y a este tal jordi, solo decirle que sois la verguenza de este pais. El resto estamos orgullosos de la riqueza cultural que guardamos en tan poco espacio, pero nunca conseguireis arrebatarnos lo que es de todos.

Criticar de cierta manera tradiciones de otras culturas diferentes a la nuestra, es caer en un peligroso etnocentrismo no hay mucha distancia a la xenofobia. Seamos cautos al mirar la paja en el ojo ajeno. Son legados de generaciones a generaciones Saludos Tano Isola Argentina. I am not in favor of killing animals well, I do not think that an American who has exterminated races, tribes, bison using force is the opinion of this practice.

Me encanta cuando gana el toro, el ser humano es algo estupido, cuando muerre alguien no se porque tanta tristeza, que tonteria, pues no era lo que buscaban????? Pena que muere poca gente y toreros, habia que empezar a matar mas los toros, son los unicos racionales de la "fiesta"!!

La imagen que damos nos la tenemos bien merecida. World's Third in the eyes of others. A estos gallegos le falla la cabeza, realmente una locura sin sentido lo que hacen, y encima dicen que es arte? No les da verguenza!!! A los Catalanes, no os gustaran los toros, pero cuando hay toros en la monumental, esta se llena.

Jordi, the second Bullfight important place is in Spain, in Barcelona. Maybe for a while in spanish second republic. I am from seville a I do not like it, but we like it.

You can fight, but in general, it a common sense here in Spain. Do you think this is cool to play with the bull which cannot express its pain by words? Its as good as torturing a human. Now i am ashamed to be a human being and ours is the only species which kills others for fun.

Amazing photographs of modern barbarism. The human animal captured in all it's shameless stupidity. The guy with the horn to the throat got precisely what he deserved. Leave him on the street. Es una tradicion claro que si, antes tambien pensaba la gente que la tierra era plana no te jode que se supone que hemos evolucionado, con ese tipo de pensamientos retrogadas vamos mal e que estamos en el macho.

Yo disfruto cuando mueren toreros o pallasos que hacen el tonto delante del toro. No os metais con las tradiciones, solo son eso, tradiciones, y al serlo siempre son buenas Yeah for sure the guy from Catalonia is to talk when they think they don't form part of Spain. Off course your against bullfighting, the only thing they teach you is to be against everything that Spain does..

Las tradiciones barbaras hay que conservarlas, pero en un museo. I am Spanish and I am ashamed of torture that is inflicted on the bulls in bullfights. Barbaric traditions must be preserved, but in a museum. Please, don't judge a whole country by a minority of people. Yo separaria el encierro de las corridas Normal de un mismo pais que se desintegra y tiene a ETA; es decir: I am a Spaniard.

I hate bullfighting to the core, and the failed attempts to justify it as-is. On the other hand, I think that "recortadores" see one of the pictures show real ability: Im saying this because the fascism of spanish people its shown here at some comments, so is their lack of culture and their dumbness. Esto es un arte? Los tiempos cambian, las tradiciones no hay que mantenerlas porque lo sean.

Tal vez va siendo momento de cambiar. Pero claro es que es una tradicion Que os parece si quedamos para matar a vuestro perro??? Y luego muere alguno en alguna corrida o encierro y la gente se alarma y escandaliza Y luego aparte muchos de los extranjeros que lo critican The bull fights are something outdated and reactionary, and his followers even more.

I woudn't worrying about that, because it is something that will disappear with time, just like other taditions have done. It will take some generations, but it's just done. Los toreros siempre presumen de ser muy hombres por enfrentarse a los toros. Yo lo que veo es que son una panda de cobardes. Si tan valientes son, yo propongo que se enfrenten en igualdad al toro. A ver que torero "valiente" tiene el valor de ponerse cara a car con un toro en una plaza sin picadores, banderilleros, vaselina en los ojos del toro antes de entrar en el ruedo, etc Si no hos gusta el pais en el que os ha tocado nacer, ya sea por toros, fronteras y demas, os podeis marchar, que se de buena tinta que muchos os lo agradeceriamos.

Os podeis ir por ejemplo a EEUU donde no maltratan animales y todo el mundo es bueno. Todo eso si no contamos que es uno de los pocos paises que deja ir de caceria a sus ciudadanos a la frontera de Mexico para dar caza a los inmigrantes ilegales que buscan mejor vida.

Vaya pais de mierda, criticamos todo lo tradicional como los toros y fomentamos a los maricones y la igualdad entre mujeres y hombres, eso si q es una salvajada!!

Rojo y sangre,es un color muy nacional,pero esto es;un sadismo,que se ha convertido en tradicion. Si quieres una lucha natural y de igual a igual, que el matador lo mate con sus propias manos y sin capote. Es muy "valiente" matar con espadas, cuchillos y escopetas esto va para los orgullosos cazadores a animales que solo pueden defenderse con sus garras, pitones, etc Iriais a la carcel de inmediato.

Sin embargo al toro se lo humilla y se le masacra con total impunidad. First of all, I'm spanish, second, I'm so upset with bullfighting it's a world of formed by ignorant and stupid people wich moves lot's of money for just killing animals.

As the same way a person couldn't run over kmph because deaths I can't explain that the goverment approve this by other reason wich don't be money generation because generally, people who PROMOTE bullfighting are ritch and they form part of the famous society that appear on stupid mags If you want to go encierros it's ok, but don't be so stupid to mess with the bull, be cautious and good luck. No me gustan los toros pero respeto a la gente que les gusta,respeto la tradicion, la fiesta y su cultura By your point of view you are telling me that you would accept if Romans kept they tradition and carried on with slavery, gladiators etc And your main defence against someone's opinion about your culture is generalizing because of a percentage of people's actions in a country with a population of more than million people?

The uncultured makes the humanity be in this state and evolution is needed for the improvement of this world. El ser humano es un ser cruel y de costumbres. Primero acabad con Esperanza Aguirre y despues con todo lo demas Mucha hipocresia y snobismo es lo que corre por doquier.

This is the image that we offer to the wold, This is our culture, but not everybody in spain is like that. Not everybody exault the violence or torture the animals. The pain and agony on the faces of both man and animal. It amazes me how many of you chalk up what the bull fighter is doing to simple animal cruelty.

You can't even fathom the courage that it takes to just get in the ring with those beasts. I guarantee you that even the most seasoned fighter is nearly crapping his pants every time he steps in that ring.

This is a fair fight if I've ever seen one. If you want to talk about animal cruelty, how about deer hunters using dogs and long range rifles. Es horrible, pero habeis caido en la trampa de estos guiris de mierda. Usais unos 10 toros entre cuantos de miles de personas.

Si no existiesen las corridas no exisistirian los toros delidia, en el resto de uropa estan extinguidos, los toros no son solo esas fotos, ademas me rio yo de la moral yanki, matar no es malo, sin embargo pornografia , toros , palabrotas si. Al que no le guste que se quede en su casa.

Que les den a todos los que critican la fiesta nacional Al que no le guste esto que no mire No veo a nadie quejarse por ello. Puedo aprobar la valentia y arte de los recortadores, que van desarmados y a pelo a enfrentarse a un Toro sano y sin castigo. El que me das asco eres Tu!! Por no tener cerebro!! I can think this is horrible. That bull is so scared. This is as despicable as the human humilitation that has happened in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay. I feel so sad for all this senseless humiliation and terror making.

Most people on Spain hate this "Crazy" National Event. Stop bullfighting and the death of inocents, animals and humans. Y no estoy a favor de que maten al toro en las corridas Un saludo a todos los Pamplonicas I just can't believe that people keep stand aside while these poor creatures are beaten down and stabbed to bleed down to death!!! This kind of turture is unberable and should stop at once.

I don't belive in animal cruelty in any form and I think that any act of such sort should stop promptly. I still can't belive the ignorence out there in the world where people just watch happily in such entertainment program and watch these poor cunfuesed bulls go out to the ring and forced to entertain the people as they're killed in such a brutal way!!!

What the hell do we still live in the dark ages where people go out to the colleseum and compete to the death!!! This kind of brutal sceneraio may have enternatined people in the past yet I still don't know how but in this day of age I just can't belive it still goes on!!! I urge you Mr. Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero to abolish and stop with this kind of brutal turture immediatly!!!

I hope you're human with sympathy to animals and even if it may cause some protesters to keep this form of entertainment such as the people involved and those who go to enjoy the shoe but it's unjustice and I hope you regard this as a top priority to abullish such brutal act to innocent bulls and any kind of animal out there.

Deberian hacerlo en igualdad de condiciones, ni espadas ni banderillas ni ostias Con las manos si son tan valientes. Por favor, que grande es la ignorancia Sufrimiento el delos animales estabulados, los pollos de las granjas Nunca vi los toros en directo, ni fui a un encierro ni vi a un recortador Mientras la carne del animal sirva para comer, a mi me da igual.

Si hay alguien que disfruta viendo los toros, que vayan. Critican una fiesta q desconocen, por q mejor no analizamos el terrorismo, el contrabando, las muertes por narcotrafico??? Este tipo de situaciones deberian acabarse y el que crea o piense que no tengo idea de lo que hablo, deberian pensar bien de lo que se trata.

No me gusta ni que sufra ni que se mate un animal. Sin embargo, muchos de los que lo hacen, bien que no se privan de comer ingentes cantidades de animales a diario. Mucha de esa gente que pone el grito en el cielo por unos toros, no lo hace por las cantidades de crueldades y salvajadas que se cometen en los mataderos a miles de animales. Ojos que no ven Se supone que ha ganado, no?

Fin a la matanza de Toros Fin al Rodeo en Chile. Las tradiciones me las meto por el culo En la Monumental de Barcelona? Anda dejar de decir estupideces,,,,,,. En este post , como tu bien dices, se habla de una cosa en concreto: Cardona de hecho solo se puede torear en la Monumental.

Seremos subdesarrollados, pero no somos crueles de esta manera. I don't think anyone should need that sport. Posted by Rob July 14, 09 Rob what are you talking about. It takes no courage to step into the ring and kill one of these animals; there is no courage in killing any animal just because you can. With knives and swords. If they were really brave it would be them with no weapons and the bull in the ring from the onsite, period. Lo discutible puede ser el espectaculo que se montan en torno a la muerte de un toro.

Cuando mateis una cualquier insecto que este en vuestras casas pensar si es un asesinato, pero como no chillan no os importa. I live in Barcelona, and like any other many people, I hate "the fiesta". Please help us to finish with this cruelty. Actually, humans are not the only species which kills for pleasure. This is a myth propagated by those who want you to think that nature is kind. Many predators will kill for pleasure, and many herbivores will kill out of spite.

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